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PostSubject: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:52 am



Defenders Intersect
Normal Trap
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Activate only during the Battle Phase. Defense Position monsters your opponent controls are changed to face-up Attack Position, and their effects are negated.
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Been play testing this card quite a bit and I have to say... I like it. First lets break the card down.


  • Normal Trap card: This means it can be activated during either turn. But not the turn it is set (in advanced format).
  • Restricted to Battle Phase: This card can only be activated during the Battle Phase, however it can be used during any Battle Phase. This hurts chain-ability, but with a slower format this is fine.
  • Permanently Negates: That is right, this card negates the card for as long as it remains face-up. There is no End Phase clause, so it lingers until the monster is no longer face-up.
  • Only works on Defense mode monsters: This hurts the card a bit, but I find it great. This card basically kills cards like Ryko, Gachi, Zenmaines, Night Assailant, Snowman Eater, etc. I mean this card reduces cards that should be a threat to nothing more than a weak monster for free LP damage.
  • Affects more than one monster: This is what makes it so great. It can negate MORE THAN ONE MONSTERS EFFECTS. Let's say you are playing Dino-Rabbit vs some deck. Your opp is stalling with Reaper and Zenmaines. Enter your Battle Phase, flip this card. Now you can easily kill the reaper and Zenmaines.
  • Puts the card in Attack: Not only does it negate their effects it switches them to attack mode! This means Snowman Eater becomes a direct attack, Zenmaines defense is useless, and Reaper? lol.
  • Flip Effects Don't Activate: Since it negates their effects, no flip effects work.


Great Cards this card wrecks:

  • Wind-Up Zenmaines
  • Spirit Reaper/ Marashmallon
  • Snowman Eater
  • Ryko
  • Night Assailant
  • Penguin Soldier
  • Jujitsu Master
  • Gachi Gachi
  • Any flip effect monster or "cannot be destroyed by battle" cards
  • Wattlock


Good Cards to Combo with:

  • No Entry!
  • Book of Eclipse
  • Book of Moon
  • Tsukuyomi


Basically the best deck I see this card working in is Dino-Rabbit. Since they generally have a hard time verse cards like; Snowman, Reaper and Zenmaines (until they get out Dolkka/Papilloperative). Also, they love backrow cards that work in their favour. So this card fits in well. With Inzektors basically being super nerfed I find this card working well this format. I am not saying it is the best card, but it has it's advantages.

I think this card could be the new hidden gem card. It basically kills stall cards and turns powerful defense monsters that have destructive effects into nothing more than free damage.

I want a serious discussion. When posting make an effort to discuss this card. Don't post stuff like; "oh looks cool" "bad card".
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 9:27 am

Seems like one of those creative side deck cards, but it seems kinda circumstantial with it only affect defense position monsters. On top of that, if you use during opponent's BP and it flips over monsters that the opponent doesn't want in attack, they might be able to Xyz or Synchro with them.

However, it definitely wrecks that long list of wreckable cards, especially with the number of cards that can negate effects being so few (only staples that come to mind are Fiendish Chain, Effect Veiler, and Skill Drain).

Although I'm more glad than anything that the Wattlock is easier to kill now.
I had to get REALLY creative with my moves with my Heroes deck this format to kill them if I got paired up against them.


It might work pretty well this format. We'll have to wait and see.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:09 am

Only bad thing about it is that you can only use it during BPs otherwise it would be playable.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:25 am

There is no "until the End Phase" restriction o-o. Also do floaters like sangan and mystic tomato get their effects ?
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:27 pm

vem123 wrote:
There is no "until the End Phase" restriction o-o. Also do floaters like sangan and mystic tomato get their effects ?
Only while they are face-up. So cards that trigger in the grave are unaffected. Just like Veiler and Chalice.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:06 pm

Joco wrote:
Only bad thing about it is that you can only use it during BPs otherwise it would be playable.
I had the same thought. Wish I could use it whenever, but still seems like a good card to have around, especially in Wabbits. Decks in general that don't destroy via effect can use this card to bypass all the annoying monsters
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:13 pm

Yeah siding it in Rabbits is awesome. The only thing that hurts it is the chain-ability and phase restriction. However, it hits all D-mode monsters the opp controls, puts them into Attack Mode AND the negations stays!
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 10:11 pm

This would be so much cooler if it was a quick-play spell instead because you don't have to set it; however, that may be one of the things that can make it OP.

This card also beats Zero Gravity by far, lol.

If Goyo Guardian wasn't banned, this would be a great help for it too.

This card would also be VERY useful for fast decks that can spam the field so pretty much, OTK is easier Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:14 pm

Fated Chronos wrote:
vem123 wrote:
There is no "until the End Phase" restriction o-o. Also do floaters like sangan and mystic tomato get their effects ?
Only while they are face-up. So cards that trigger in the grave are unaffected. Just like Veiler.

When Effect Veiler negates an effect it also negates it in the grave >_>

The card can be a good side deck choice in some decks that can afford the space to run it.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:04 am

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When Effect Veiler negates an effect it also negates it in the grave



k try to negate my sangan. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:09 am

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Fated Chronos wrote:
vem123 wrote:
There is no "until the End Phase" restriction o-o. Also do floaters like sangan and mystic tomato get their effects ?
Only while they are face-up. So cards that trigger in the grave are unaffected. Just like Veiler.

When Effect Veiler negates an effect it also negates it in the grave >_>

The card can be a good side deck choice in some decks that can afford the space to run it.

Uh.... you might be slightly confused. Veiler only negates effects that activate on the field or are applied on the field (cont. effs). Lonefire vs Veiler. Since effects resolve where they activate Lonefire activates and resolves on the field. So therefor Veiler still negates it. Veiler vs Sangan. Sangan triggers when it hits the grave, no longer on the field and the effect doesn't activate on the field. So Veiler can't touch it. This is why you get Sangan eff when you summon it by TGU.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:53 am

I have seen the characters from the artwork before, anyone know what other cards hey are in?
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:29 am

Fated Chronos wrote:
Train Hardnett wrote:
Fated Chronos wrote:
vem123 wrote:
There is no "until the End Phase" restriction o-o. Also do floaters like sangan and mystic tomato get their effects ?
Only while they are face-up. So cards that trigger in the grave are unaffected. Just like Veiler.

When Effect Veiler negates an effect it also negates it in the grave >_>

The card can be a good side deck choice in some decks that can afford the space to run it.

Uh.... you might be slightly confused. Veiler only negates effects that activate on the field or are applied on the field (cont. effs). Lonefire vs Veiler. Since effects resolve where they activate Lonefire activates and resolves on the field. So therefor Veiler still negates it. Veiler vs Sangan. Sangan triggers when it hits the grave, no longer on the field and the effect doesn't activate on the field. So Veiler can't touch it. This is why you get Sangan eff when you summon it by TGU.

+ed for being helpfull unlike myself. .-.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:09 pm

eXe DoctorWhooves wrote:
I have seen the characters from the artwork before, anyone know what other cards hey are in?

Jerry Beans Man and Swordsman of Landstar/Comrade Swordsman of Landstar.
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PostSubject: Re: Defenders Intersect   Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:03 pm

Train Hardnett wrote:
Fated Chronos wrote:
vem123 wrote:
There is no "until the End Phase" restriction o-o. Also do floaters like sangan and mystic tomato get their effects ?
Only while they are face-up. So cards that trigger in the grave are unaffected. Just like Veiler.

When Effect Veiler negates an effect it also negates it in the grave >_>

The card can be a good side deck choice in some decks that can afford the space to run it.

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When Effect Veiler negates an effect it also negates it in the grave >_>

Fail...

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The card can be a good side deck choice in some decks that can afford the space to run it.

Maining at least one would do good in a fast swarming deck e.e
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