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PostSubject: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:21 pm

Gemini HEROs or Bubble Beat are becoming more and more popular these days. Based around 3 Neos Alius and 2-3 Gemini Spark this deck is very good at control game, then exploding for game when the opportunity arises. 3 Spark is preferred because the deck can recycle the 3 Neos Alius very effectively by using The Shinning or HERO Blast. Some people prefer to add an extra Gemini to the deck. HERO beat usually runs 7-12 monsters, and those that prefer to have more monsters usually opt for the extra or "4th" gemini. Alius is a 1900 beater, so it is only natural to chose another 1900 beater that is also a Gemini. This is were the choice of Evocator and Crusader comes in. Both boasting 1900 ATK and both being Geminis. Crusader is LIGHT and a Spellcaster, while Evovcator is FIRE and a Warrior. Both come with their advantages and Disavantages.

When deciding between the two it is important to look at them from a strategic perspective. Crusader being LIGHT is the popular choice for most. Since The Shinning is the key card for HERO beat he provides the LIGHT necessary. This can be handy if you want to preserve Alius in your grave to use for HERO Blast. If you are also running Honest, he is a good choice because they work together. Evocator is the alternative. Being a Warrior he is another option for ROTA. Which is good, in a deck with a low monster count it is good to have more targets for ROTA. Since with E-call and stratos you can go through them fast. Being FIRE he also lets you make Nova Master without Super Poly. Nova Master being a 2600 draw card, he is a very handy card to have around.

Now it all comes down to strategy, build and personal presence. I like that Evocator can be gotten with ROTA and helps make Nova Master (probably my favourite Omni HERO behind Zero). I don't see much use for using Crusader because you have enough LIGHTS, and I run Rai-oh in my HERO decks so Shinning viable monsters aren't a problem for me.

What one do you prefer?
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:25 pm

I prefer the slower stun deck, but I never include in either.
Anyway lately the fast OTKing bubblebeat has bigger success, which also has no free place for gemini monsters unless some alius.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:27 pm

I prefer the Gemini control Build. I am not an explosive player. I play like really conservatively. I love having control of the game.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:34 am

I prefer Bubble Beat as it is good in both control and OTK. Controlling with Gemini Spark, Skill Drain, Hero Blast and Super Poly while OTK-ing with explosive Bubbleman plays.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:42 am

I just like Evocator as a card. An excuse to run it is awesome. Also at one point I was messing with a HERO build that had Gemini Scorpions in it and Evocator. Was pretty fun.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:38 pm

the main and most important use for novamaster is to get rid of zenmaines , laggia , dolkka and possibily other im too lazy to mention with super poly ofcourse so you do not necesarily need to run the fire gemini instead of thinking of using you're fire to fuse with opponents monster to make nova do the opposite use they're fire and one of you're monsters to make nova makes more sense and gives you space for other more useful cards as for the light gemini he isnt needed either.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:40 pm

Keep in mind I wrote this in April. Just felt like getting the forum some topics to get it started. Seems to have worked.

Meh guess you are right about Super Poly.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:08 am

it feels like people hasnt realize (or probable did, but did not like to mention about it) Evocator is a cool choice cuz unlike Crusador, you can use evocator for blade armor and gets you closer for that otk blade armor move. Just saying. so its like this:

Evocator = explosive plays
Crusador = conservative plays

either way its your choice
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:41 pm

Um.... Neither? Nonsearchable gemini are bad.... and please don't give me this "you can rota evocator [Word Censored]". If i draw rota, i am going to search stratos or alius. A good card that has some synergy with my deck outside of being the right attribute to fuse with.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:34 am

I really honestly prefer the gemini control build... im not an explosive player by any means... so bubble beat just doesnt work so well for me.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:43 am

Bubblebeat can now be outclassed with the Promo Noble Knight guy. You can play an all light version with Crusader and this with Alius and go for 1900 light monsters. The new promo is stronger and does the same thing as bubbleman but more specific.
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:00 am

WhirlwindKnight wrote:
Bubblebeat can now be outclassed with the Promo Noble Knight guy. You can play an all light version with Crusader and this with Alius and go for 1900 light monsters. The new promo is stronger and does the same thing as bubbleman but more specific.

what is this promo noble knight guy ?
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PostSubject: Re: HEROs - Crusader vs Evocator   Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:52 pm

LethalAfterZ wrote:
WhirlwindKnight wrote:
Bubblebeat can now be outclassed with the Promo Noble Knight guy. You can play an all light version with Crusader and this with Alius and go for 1900 light monsters. The new promo is stronger and does the same thing as bubbleman but more specific.

what is this promo noble knight guy ?

1900 light lv 4 warrior
If u control a light normal monster u can special summon it from hand in faceup def, like bubbleman but u dont need the no cards in hand rule, and u can use it with Alius
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